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TOPIC 1:


What
practical support and engagement do member groups feel they could best offer
that would fit with the needs of students, and how would they go about offering them
?


1 Red Dot




More member groups, roles



Relevant things to your role



Feedback
between group



CPD seen as interesting



½ people are non members



Introduction of members



Students chapters (engaged students to get more engaged to universities)

o

Students needs to be a member of BCS

o

Universities have their own computer club

o

Advertise on uni
versity website or direct link to BCS website

o

Prizes for the best projects

o

Awards to universities

o

Widens student membership and prize

o

CPD might be useful

o

Student version of CPD

o

CPD is it only to BCS members?

o

Promoting chartered status


1 Yellow Dot




Foreign students are likely to join a student chapter at MSc level



Have a reason to be there in addition to the curriculum



Encourage student chapters to engage with each other in a geographic area across
universities rather than make them university
-
specif
ic e.g. Warwick and Coventry



If it is for under
-
grads they need to include topics related to their coursework. If post
-
grad
it can be additional.



Vary the events and tailor to the market, having researched the market very carefully. One
size cannot fit all
.



It needs an ‘
insider
’ to the university to drive it



Could be run by YPG



Send BCS members to university rather than invite them to us.


1 Orange Dot




Practical support to students


zero cost to students or very clear benefit



Benefits of student chapters

o

Funding from student unions

o

New recruits to BCS

o

Enthusiasm, fresh ideas

o

More in it for higher degree students?

o

Membership of chapter


HE only or FE / Tech?


SFIA level 3 relevance to FE



Benefits to students

o

Employment potential

o

Networking

o

Practical exper
ience

o

Mentoring

o

Enhancing profession / HE links



Social element critical


the ‘free beer’ concept



Select events on skill level and / or area of expertise



Issues preventing student engagement


time and energy, workload of professionals and
students,
resources and money


1 Blue dot




Not undergrad students. More post
-
grad


events


one day training.



PHD prep


what jobs, what grants, industry representatives



Challenge


mailing list


all students in Britain or every student


free offer to help


what

can we do to help



Info retrieval


focus post grad students. Travel grants. Other sources. Difficult to get
existence out there. Student members BCS often learn too late



Student member mailing list



Chapter


W London


strong links with unis


student pri
zes


1
st
, 2
nd
, 3
rd

year students.



Get rep from uni onto branch



Some unis have student computing groups



Aim


tips for finding jobs



Put on CV have won a student prize



Live cast studies on how someone been successful



Take the meetings of MGs to the students
, instead of them coming to external meetings



Poss


an information pack on successful chapter. BCS involvement. Chapters to be run
by MGs.



Have themed events



Young Prof Gp


blurred time between when student stops and young professional starts



Not been su
ccessful on engaging the form IT teachers


too much on their plates



Careers day held for IT teachers for independent



Hong Kong


mentorship scheme in 2008. Recruit 100 + members each year. Recruit
mentors. Organise events, open discussion, encourage join
BCS about 10%


1 Green Dot




Bring rela life to ‘academia’


helping them to ‘get real’



Students are ephemeral and have experience of enthusiasm dwindling quickly



Focus towards the lecturers who are more permanent or student union or similar
organization


around club funding



Academics on the branch committees (or technical staff)



BCS strategy


use funding from the big IT companies to sponsor student membership


stop playing as we are not IET or IEEE so can’t compete as we are.


1 Black Dot




Chapter


help

with programme of study students, final year helping younger



Outside speakers



Benefit


students aware of BCS early, companies aware of what students are doing and
skill levels and capabilities



Sri Lanka already have student group



Technical uni 5/6 potent
ial for uni to have student chapter


1 Purple Dot




Needs active presence on
-
site to promote at university / colleges



Engagement via social media e.g. YouTube resource from events ‘free shop window’



BCS needs to be doing a better job of selling the benefits

of membership to students /
employers



Many academic members who join a ‘group’ of outreach members, take responsibility of
bring signing up students


2 Blue Dots




Need to communicate with local university students



Need to have a university member of staff

in communication with the branch committee



Should be easier, quicker to find BCS events calendar


2 Orange Dots




Branch


affiliation with university locally



SG


reach through talks


recorded



Focused on P/Gran or U
-
Gran Project



Focus on students
interests



Refr and Pizza sessions



Also F.E. colleges



Bringing students together with employers



Taking on from univ. provisions about careers


2 Yellow Dots




Practical support MGs best offer to meet needs of students



What students


NVQ, GCSE, Apprentices



S
ome companies pay for ‘fit employees’ thus not necessarily apprentices £30



Networking opportunities



Student prizes



Practical skills employabiliyy


Government (SG)



Fundamental knowledge


uni / college



Mentoring students


SG support for dissertation, equi
pment, etc



Branch and SG has different role



Link with teachers as volunteers in schools



YPG


student chapters
-

school


2 Green Dots




What practical support and engagement do member groups feel they could best offer that
would fit with the needs of
students to go about offering them



Work placements / internships with group membership companies



NI coding workshops (run weekends)


members working with school (11
-
16)


logistics
problems


distance etc, ‘hacking space’ support groups



Finding more ways
of interesting students in BCS e.g.raspberry pi ‘capturing
imagination’



Practical


technical activities (not business oriented stuff)



Being available to answer questions



2 Red Dots




Want to encourage more students to join but it’s £50 for 4 years


ther
e is demand but no
special deals available



Chartered accountants offer it for free



Malta


BCS should engage more with sections and their students


also wants free
student membership



Mentoring to offer valie


by CITPS



Talk to UGs in 1
st

term / semester t
o explain what’s offered by BCS, instead of large
exhibitions



Keep it simple


too much material / handouts



Students volunteers to helpout / watch


2 Black Dots




Dorset has chapter, but needs support



East Anglia has 4 universities so has resource issues
covering all of them all the time



Attempts should be made to connect with existing computer clubs



Shoulf encourage female groups of students



Portal



Discover what students want from student chapter



Career relevant advice from professional members



Student
reps on MG committees



Finances for chapters?



TOPIC
2
:


What
(other than student chapters)

can member groups do to engage with and encourage
the involvement of students and young professionals
?


1 Red Dot




Target members



Roles of the students of specialis
t groups



Student level?



Coding club


initiative to get professional developers to share their professions



In US coach organization, OK it is coding club



Very intensive to find a group of students to do this and takes effort



Bristol Branch, talking about r
obots



Weekend with school children



Similar activities should be done to other branches



Marketing: needs to get BCS marketing involved



Sponsor student prizes



Money? Extend companies or BCS



Other companies providing money to sponsor



Ensure that students know

what they doing



Seems to be very difficult



Much more fair and suggestions



Have meetings and short video



Training support and sign in YPG



Lot of committees of retired people and can’t commit too much



IBM and government department, not large companies



In
finance and where there is a lot of IT people and to make their people chartered



Employers to be valued for their membership



CITP no use in relevant to specific person



Corporate level membership or any universities



Accredited course, could become a member



Individual or student can become a member



Role of organization affiliates, what does BCS do for these organizations in terms of
membership?


1 Yellow Dot




Dose of reality with solutions




Expand into non
-
IT areas



Base meetings at university



Roster competit
ions with prizes



Demonstrations of sexy technology (3D printing)



Free events to encourage students



Use of games as an educational development mechanism for young kids


1 Orange Dot




Industry forms


busy, advantage for professional



Continued engagement



Links with interest groups



BCS go to local ‘geek’ group at pub



Motivation


job prospects, interview skills, skills
dev.
, CPD records, wide knowledge of
real world



Time / money



Membership rates?



Relevance



Advertise events to non members to encourage member
ship



BCS creator of ind forum, link to uni courses



Fees student rate for 3 years in work



Unemployed rate?



YPG yes for branches


1 Blue Dot




CPD


introducing professional development



Got into a bit of a knot



Short half day training courses on specialist
software packages, interface design



Workshops and conferences attended well by students



Don’t interact young professionals


not enough committee time



Different interest groups and events



Prizes for best student paper



Poster sessions


aimed at students



As
sist and help to complete projects



Suggest local employers on IT etc, open up doors of an evening to show young
professionals



Publicise benefits



Membership fee


pay over 10 months



Keep YP status of membership at same price as student e.g. post grad
student, to keep
membership



Retention and value for money



Post grad students strapped for cash



Computing committed students very high number were BCS members



Geographical problems when finish as student and move away



Not got ability to keep in touch



Need
member to believe in BCS


need to be passionate about IT profession



In Engineering, was a chartered member, was very beneficial. CITP doesn’t have same
value as
CEng, which

is widely recognized. Make the CITP worth while


1 Green Dot




Get young profession
als in member group committees.
Otherwise

we can’t speak their
language and lack street cred at present



Try to get them involved early


at school and to see the advantages



Can BCS reduce or remove the subs for young professionals who are actively involved
?



Benefits


networking,
mentorship
, ‘real life’ experience. Being a committee member etc
is seen as enhanced employability


but is it?



Improved company recognition of BCS so students will want to be members


this isn’t
the case now



Cost, time, events do
n’t meet needs



Need a strategic approach



BCS members to go into university to give
presentations

e.g.

professional ethics



Sustainment


links to CPD and companies seeing it as useful



The way we do events now is not interesting


virtual meetings, web etc.


1 Black Dot




Free drink, free lunch


encouragement



Vendor hands
-
on


come and play / test
-
drive



Guest lecturers to attend



CPD record for future interviews



Career advice from professionals


job hunting / agency



Benefits


CV, contacts, professional viewpoint,



Stops students time, ease of access, post to



Timing of events 17.30 starts local to students (at uni), convenient to students



Sporting events, social events, student competitions


1 Purple Dot




Encourage ad
vertises to request / require MBCS, CITP etc as part of job specifications



Improve brand image of the BCS



Improve
employability
, via networking etc



HQ roadshow to travel around branches and run the BCS graduate scheme (maybe for
student
members

only?)



How
to encourage student members to convert to professional membership after they
graduate



Better advertising of BCS activities within university departments


marketing database



Retention management


are members with lapsed membership nagged for the next two

years?



BCS website is clunky in places and not very exciting



Joining / renewing should be easy


are the electronic process easy?


2 Blue Dots




Hands on presentation



Benefits if part of studies



2 years of retention by students


difficulties



Officers from

BCS HQ to support



Online documentation


to strengthen



Free access for personal development


Table
2 Orange Dots




Role model


aspirations



? Charging


secure good events



Pay for something


greater value perceptions



Y.P. Long hours etc


get employers to

give time



Events


substantial


sell benefit to employers



Help / seen as key part of career development


CPD tool


2 Yellow Dots




What is a young professional


in debt, too much happening, lots of work pressures



Make it worthwhile



Something of interest



Support professionally like other professional organisations



Should we have the government involved?



Free membership



What would a young professional give back?


2 Green Dots




IT professional of the Year



Do they stay on and what is done to encourage them t
o stay on?



We can offer support of the university



London hit students to help committee



CPD should apply to everyone



Engage students on committee to act as ambassadors



Competitions uni / college open event prize by BCS, sponsor BCS


2 Red Dots




Offer
mentoring



Be proactive


branches look at the bigger companies in the area and approach them
direct, practicing in IT and sell them the benefits e.g. some companies pay the fee for
their employees to
join



Students leave their education with a degree


theo
ry
,

B
CS very involved in the industry


the practice



Work collectively with IET, with BCS as lead


more
coordinated

for the employers



More of a push and promote to deliver guest slots on degree course e.g. the BCS UK
expert in key topics


2 Black Dots




In
spiring

ideas and opportunities



Sponsoring, skills development



Courses
,

training

etc



Regional events



Progressive student membership (post uni)



Free membership ideas (for a period)



Support that’s available (post uni)



HR buy
-
in for graduates



Hard
-
mapping



Bus
iness week


winner get membership



Branch / SG visits (either or)



Discount membership



Student TP rep on committees



Survey this












































TOPIC
3
:


How can BCS help young professionals in the early stages of their career,
particularly
in terms of finding employment in times of recession
?



1 Red Dot




Job recruit on portal BCS website



CDP will be useful what these students have done



Students can send their CVs to BCS



Message boards in BCS?



Advertise by universities and
current students recently graduated



Focus on employer, different text, employer understands the students



Treated

better by organisations



Possibly should be a member of an organization



Some persons leave their membership as they are not getting any benefit



CITP which is beneficial for students



See a list on a database, for example seeing a video presentation, you need to be a
member



Provide benefit to the public for non members



Members

can get specific
access

to specific items whereas on members can only bro
wse
the main website



Is there enough trade fair for BCS?



Google Plus and YouTube broadcasting live



Invite large organisations to know BCS is doing



Remove geek of computing


1 Yellow Dot




CIOs won’t take people without experience


students on year out



Sand
wich placement work, persuade companies



Companies preferring 18 year olds ad 3 year apprenticeships



Soft skills and tech skills



Practical experience is needed



Leave a positive trail of work share on social media, have a portfolio



Bring back mentoring schem
e



Help members become mentors, take a share, don’t have to be professional member



12
th

June


debate on Academic
vs.

Workplace learning



CV writing and tailoring needed


1 Orange Dot




Networking



CV clinic



Appropriate events



Interview practice



Encourage
students into industrial / work placements and emphasise importance of this



Publicise vacancies



Members could learn from students!



Students could learn relevance of the skills they are learning



Engage with Unis and colleges!



Personal invitations to prestig
e events for unemployed students / graduates



Need to find high profile speakers!



BCS register of high profile speakers or ability of raising enquiries with members



Actively promote Lovelace Colloquium and other events



BCS e
-
bulleting of impending events


similar to IET approach, add to e
-
biz mail



Mail to people based or address not whether they have joined a branch



Students may be reluctant / way of networking, help them to learn to network, make
events networking friendly



Events open to all, anyone coming

to an event could be a potential member


1 Blue Dot




Mentoring



Run mock interviews, feedback



‘The
Graduate
’ by S Yorks branch



Networking

sessions and activities



Monitor guidelines to help students



Year 3 students what advice on job hunting



Link up with
Unis themselves



Get students up on their feet to present about their work, oral and written



Get

local employers in and get them to explain how important soft skills
are

e.g.
presentations skills



Bank of China IT head gave talk to guide students on what the
y will need as skills


can
lead to internships



Seen post grads on TV doing technician jobs. See BCS as the chartered route


too elite


conflict



If MG has 1 or 2 unis in catchment area


get a single meeting to cover all chapter events



Problem of increas
ing number of students and unis, but decreasing number of IT
employers



Need to ensure not too academic



BCS to help? Practical and free



Mailing lists


don’t just focus on BCS students


but all students



Social media



E.g. Biology, Sociology, Geology etc


k
eep continuity when graduate


for an MG to
keep track or share geographical move of post grad students



BCS website


more promotion of local job opportunities on each branch patch



Free advertising to employers



Members keep up for job hunting



Job list


me
mbers only



Potential members who work in IT


1 Green Dot




Networking, but are most BCS current members worth networking with? Retired,
redundant or academics.



Experience

in bridging youth and experience with employers



CV sessions



Training in innovation and

entrepreneurship



‘Dragons Den’


before employers see unworkable ideas



2
-
way mentoring


young and old


young people explain new ideas to older which both
helps with soft skills and educates the ‘grey’ committee



Internships and work of projects where Cos

don’t have resources to complete



BCS work with government on jobseekers etc to position work experience



Must be top lead to avoid BCS looking a shambles with differing committee approaches
etc. Not workable now.



Lack of BCS standards mean benefits depend
on individuals



Should student membership be free? Subsidise the youth for the benefit of the whole
industry


1 Black Dot




Getting agencies involved in talking



Endorsements (like LinkedIn)



Meetings should be open to all



Passing student questionnaires and su
rveys round at meetings


1 Purple Dot




Don’t do this well for mature
members



Encourage use of CPD resources


give a presentation, write a tech report, write a good
CV



Need to do more mentoring



Set up buddy relationships



Who are the experts


feature them
and
their

activities, sell their contributions to life in
the UK, promote them on YouTube, scientists do it, why can’t we?



Connect on public events / news



Compensate ‘negative publicity’ with ‘positive publicity’


2 Blue Dots




Enthusiastic YPG



Vacation
jobs with charity


to get experience



‘The Graduate’ programme


rolled out more widely



Putting lectures out on YouTube


appears to be significant interest



Educate employers to look at the wider skillsets of graduates



BCS can get involved in progression f
rom graduate to employee


2 Orange Dots




Why young?


what about older ones?



Encourage for chartered



Portfolio



Bringing people together


SG is focus



Networking


help with introductions


after events



Bring employed together with job seekers, with intent
but informally


2 Yellow Dots




How can BCS help



Lots of organisations


trying to help young people into work



Who is best placed to help? HR / Personnel


tell them our story to help them



How do get experience if haven’t got job?



Connections Hayes requirem
ent to Bedford Branch



IT recruiters, IT educators, case study and moved on



Lots will only go through recruitment agencies



Experience opportunity



Skill shortage


out of work can’t necessarily match



Being a BCS member good sign want to get on


2 Green Dots




Internships, work experience



Contact addresses of corporate members from HQ


L&D



Clues from membership numbers



Communicating experience



Interview training, CVs



Provide a friendly environment



Interview clinic


2 Red Dots




Job exposure, shadowing with comp
anies



Providing CVs, interviews, mentors to assist the young prof



Invite the students to join branch / SGs



Register of students that can be provided to local companies (vice
-
versa)



Join up BCS HQ with member branches, members for team time



Information of c
orporate schemes to be made available to member groups (branches)



Better visibility of promotions and information available



Make aware to local companies the BCS schemes



Publicise the list of corporate company members (e.g. IBM) and the benefits



Get
students to talk to the committees of the local MGs


2 Black Dots




Internships


entry level jobs, register of



Attendance at Branch and SG activities



Student CPD



Apprenticeships



Redundancy coaching / courses / mentoring



Returning to work coaching, courses,

mentoring



Identify opportunities in the industry to help make career decisions



Off committee ‘jobs’ i.e. webmaster / video editing / tech support to gain experience



Job fair involvement



Link with the business community



Partner with the industry (Intellect
?) to provide and find work experience opportunities



Find out what universities are already doing to avoid duplication and possibly link back to
a BCS portal



Keep skills up to date


refresh activities