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Commission on Teacher and Administrator Education, Certification

And Licensure and Development

Central High Building

Fourth Floor Conference Room

10:00 A.M.

May 7, 2004

The Commission on Teacher and Administrator Education, Certification and Licensure an
Development met on Friday, May 7, 2004 at 10:00 a.m. in the Central High School Building.
Chairman Hutto called the meeting to order, Regina Ginn called the roll and announced a
quorum present.

Commission Members Present

Dr. James Hutto

Dr. Roy Ruby

Benny Long

Leon Clay

Renee Moore

Dr. Marian Talley

Dan Brown

Pat Flaherty

Kim Hubbard

Don Garrett

Cindy Gipson

Jerry Morgan

Mary Davidson

Commission Members Absent

Ken Murphree

Annie Smith

Office of Educator Licensure Staff Present

Regina G

Mike Hobby

Liz Dungan

Cindy Coon

State Department of Education Staff Present

Kathy Boteler

Laura Jones

Steve Hebler

Dr. Bonita Potter

Approval of Minutes

Dr. Hutto called for corrections to the minutes of the March meeting. Dr. Marian Tal
requested a correction to spelling of her name for the record. The motion to approve the
March minutes was made by Mr. Clay, with a second by Dr. Ruby. The minutes were

Agenda Item 2


Dr. Hutto asked if there were any changes to t
he agenda. Mrs. Ginn deleted Item I since Dr.
Daphne Buckley was not present. Dr. Hutto asked for motion to amend the agenda moving
Item 2 down the agenda because Dr. Potter was detained due to another meeting. Ms.
Hubbard made the motion to amend the ag
enda. Mr. Brown seconded the motion. The
motion was approved

Agenda Item 3
. Laura Jones

Update on Priority Schools.

Ms. Jones drew the attention of the Commission to the “Rainbow Books”, which she called
the cliff notes for Priority Schools. These

colorful books show the Appraisal System for
Teachers, Administrators, Superintendents, Principals and evaluation instruments used by the
department. Ms. Jones explained that 120 contract workers

MDE employees

into schools in September. Vis
its lasted anywhere from 4 days to 3 weeks. These contract
workers presented reports in December and were approved by local school boards in
February. This evaluation process will serve as an accountability process for local schools
who need improvement. T
he department was not surprised to find that all 10 priority schools
did not meet the cut scores. They were using Mississippi state curriculum framework but the
problem came in their curriculum alignment with assessment. Teachers were not
restructuring the

way they taught to cover the weaknesses shown by their assessments.
Hopefully, they will use the data provided by evaluators to improve teaching. They are now
anxiously awaiting test scores from last week to see if their improvement plans show better
lts. All 10 schools did not meet required scores in Safe and Orderly Climate. These
schools did not have a Crisis Response Plan. They only had general plans and needed
specific plans tailored to their particular buildings with everyone having a role. Pa
rt of the
evaluation was personnel appraisal. No superintendents fell below the standard, nor central
office staff. Two of ten principals fell below standard. Twenty percent of the teachers in
priority schools were placed on improvement plans. One principa
l was released of duties
while the other one was placed on an improvement plan. The process is working.

Ms. Moore asked Ms. Jones if all schools have copies of these reports. Ms. Jones replied that
they did have access to these reports because they are g
ood research based instruments for
statewide appraisal. Seventy
five percent of districts plan to use the instrument in the future.
It is available online.

Dr. Ruby asked who relieved the one principal of his duties. Ms.Jones replied that the local
ol board had that authority. The teachers involved were given two years on the
prescribed improvement plan. If they still do not make the required cut score during that
period of time, they will be released by their respective school boards.

Agenda Item


Dr. Bonita Potter, “Leaving Less to Chance.”

Dr. Potter addressed the Commission by explaining that the Office of Curriculum and
Instruction was in the process of visiting the state institutions of higher learning, showing the
“Leaving Less to Chanc
e” presentation. This presentation shows the relation of test scores of
Mississippi’s K
12 children in 2001, 2002 and 2003 to national standards, and in relation to
other southern states. All new teachers who come into a Mississippi classroom should have

knowledge of the Mississippi Curriculum Framework. The results show K
4 children
performing well but show a decline in grade 5.

NAEP charts show no progress during the 1998
2002 time frame. These charts do show
growth in Math in 4

and 8

grade. Mis
sissippi received awards nationally for growth in
Math. Writing scores also improved from 1998 to 2002. If we break down the data into
different areas, there are several disparities. A tremendous amount of work needs to be done
with deprived students. Sev
three percent of black children are below basic skills, while
33% of white children. We must improve the number of children performing below basic in
Mississippi. Nationally, Mississippi is No.4 in progress in Math, even with very little money
to use

for improvement. Progress is being made and we must continue this cycle.

Teachers must come out of the higher education system prepared to face these challenges.
Where is higher education in all of this? We need higher education to help us be sure that

Mississippi Curriculum Framework is being taught in every classroom. These new teachers
must understand the needs of the children they are being asked to teach

including the state,
district, and school curriculum. The cycle must always be kept in p
lace. Institutions of
higher learning must assist Quality Educators in preparing teachers to be ready their first day
of teaching.

Dr. Tally asked specifically about data from other years and other states. Dr. Potter replied
that she could request additi
onal data from NAEP if she needed it.

Ms. Moore stated that she would like to see the entire report.

Agenda Item 4

Ron Nurnberg, Teach for America

Alternate Route Program

Mr. Nurnberg introduced several members of his staff that were present. He expl
ained that
the Teach for America (TFA) program had 13,500 applications nationally of interested
individuals who would like to teach in low income schools. This year there were1700 new
people enrolled in the program in 21 regions across the country. Teach
for America had 74
new teachers in the Delta this fall for a total of 137 Teach for America teachers in Delta
classrooms this year (Arkansas and Mississippi). TFA has been in the Delta since 1991 in
critical shortage areas. TFA is a movement to change and
work toward equity in education
regardless of where you grow up. They recruit in colleges across the country with applicants
committing to teach in low income areas. Hopefully, they will make lifelong proponents of
education. TFA now has 8000 alumni still
in education. Others began with TFA and have
gone into medicine or law and some are coming back to work in those same areas.

Dr Hutto asked for clarification on alternate route certification in Teach for America. The
12 alternate route duplicates
what the state is already offering. Mr. Nurnberg
introduced the idea that Teach for America Elementary 4
8 needs consideration. Only the
MAT currently offers 4
8 certification.

Entrance requirements for Teach for America include a higher GPA than our c
alternate route programs. Praxis I and II, requirements are just as the other programs. TFA
requires at least 12 hours of observation, 2 initial courses, then additional coursework. Also,
TFA instructors offer a weeklong induction acquainting them w
ith Mississippi and MS
classrooms. The Mentorship is equivalent to the internship in MAT.

Ms. Moore asked for clarification that this new proposal deals only with grades 4

Dr. Hutto asked where the TFA program was functioning the in the state. Mr. N
explained that currently, they have teachers in several areas of the Delta including Sunflower
County, Greenville, Leland. This has evolved over time. Asked how an area was selected, he
replied that they looked at the number of free lunches in a pa
rticular school or district and the
needs of the district and their potential funding base. At this time they are working in six
school districts in Mississippi and seven districts in Arkansas. There is no duplication of
programs in Arkansas as with the M
AT program in Mississippi so the process is more

Dr. Hutto asked how the program is different from Teacher Corps (TC)? Mr. Nurnberg
explained that TC is funded with state tax dollars and does not require a 2 year commitment
by teachers to
a specific school district. Mr. Nurnberg was asked why TFA did not ask for 4
8 endorsement when Teach for America was initially approved? He explained that they did
but the Commission said no at that time.

Dr. Ruby said that if Teacher Corp operated th
rough Ole Miss, would Teach for American
operate through a particular institution? Mr. Nurnberg said that they did have a partnership
with Delta State University. TFA applicants can now get a full scholarship at DSU for the
Master of Education program 7

but for the Elementary 4
8 they must go through MAT
program which is not offered at DSU at this time.

Mr Nurnberg went on to explain that teachers must go to Houston for the initial courses, then
come here for the internship. If they enroll in MAT, the
y are taking courses they’ve already
had but get no additional credit.

Dr. Tally asked about the portfolio that is mentioned in the handout material. Rachel, TFA
staff member explained that the portfolio portion of the program is now being developed. M
Moore stated that she would like to see additional information before the Commission is
asked to vote on the Elementary 4
8 TFA program. Mr. Clay asked for a summary to review
before the vote at the July Commission meeting. Dr. Hutto added his apprecia
tion of what
Teach for America was doing since everyone was aware of the teacher shortage in the delta

Agenda Item 5

Regina Ginn

Process/Performance Review

Mrs. Ginn began with an explanation about the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 “Highl
Qualified” definition as pertains to 7
8 grade teachers. Mississippi Association of Colleges of
Teacher Education appointed Don Locke, Dean of the School of Education at Mississippi
College, and Mrs. Ginn to conduct a review of the Process Guide Standard

6 and make
proposals to MACTE. The advisory team met April 8

at MC and asked all deans to send
representatives. The meeting was well attended.

Suggested changes to the current K
4 license is a minimum of 44 hours of core subjects in
their program of s
tudy, including English
12 hrs; Math

9 hrs; Science

9 hrs; Social

12 hrs; Fine Arts

6 hrs. There is also a suggested interdisciplinary program of
study which includes 3 hrs of Classroom Management, 15 hrs of Reading and 3 hrs of
Special Edu
cation. This is an increase in reading hours. IHL representatives from the April 8,
2004, meeting suggested that some areas have a decrease in hours. The MDE staff plans to
meet with all stakeholders and bring back recommendations on these suggested change

Dr. Hutto questioned the number of hours required. Ms. Ginn deferred to Dr. Locke. He
explained that the advisory team is very aware that the cap of hours is under review. The
team feels that teachers need a core to work from particularly in elementar
y education. He
went on to say that the Process Review (PR) was very intensive this year. They found that
there were areas that were overlapping and the PR was helpful in working this out. This
process helped determine what was defined as core curriculum
as affects teacher education.
The process is further attempting to incorporate IHL, MACTE, MDE requirements and be
sure they aren’t at cross purposes. The six hours of fine arts is still up for discussion. Core
curriculum requirements at every college a
nd university already exceed 44 hours. We need to
get it down to 44. Mrs. Ginn will talk to the stakeholders involved to determine how to
refine this. Mr. Morgan expressed concerned about cutting the number of hours in math and

Dr. Hutto asked h
ow long classroom management has been required. Ms. Ginn said it had
been a requirement since 1998. Dr. Ruby added that those who supervise teachers say that
classroom management is greatly needed and should be required. Dr. Hutto asked what part
the stat
e curriculum framework has in Process Review. Ms. Ginn responded that this is one
of the areas of review. Dr. Hutto stated that he felt that the teaching of the state curriculum
framework and classroom management are two of the most important components of

education. Ms. Moore asked what courses should be required in a teacher education
program? Ms. Ginn explained that this was part of the process of study. Standard 6 addresses
licensure structure. Core curriculum pertains to the individual college or unive
rsity but
Process Review looks at how can we use pedagogy or methods courses. Ms. Ginn added that
after this had been presented to the stakeholders involved, it will come back to the
Commission to review.

Ms. Ginn also introduced the new license

recommended for elementary. There are also
new 4
8 subject area licenses and the current elementary 4
8 license will be deleted.

Ms. Gipson said that she was glad about the adding of special education hours for the
classroom teacher. Teachers had express
ed to her that they felt that they were not being
prepared for special children. She felt it was critical for our teachers to know how to identify
children with special needs.

Dr. Hutto concluded this discussion by saying he would recommend a called meet
ing of the
entire commission to discuss this further because of the importance of this issue.

Agenda Item 6

Approval of Recommended Cut Scores for Praxis II Tests

Steve Hebler, Office of Research and Statistics, introduced how the process was done.

explained the process beginning with teacher panelists selected by Educational Testing
Service that determined what a beginning teacher would need to know in order to teach that
subject. Panelists used professional judgment on individual items on each
test. Mr. Hebler
and Ms. Ginn computed all the statistics. Then a Subcommittee of the Commission went
through the statistics, looking at the distribution of candidates from other states to estimate
how MS teachers would fair. They looked at a reasonable c
ut score based on other state
scores and what they know about Mississippi teacher graduates trying to determine a score
that would make sense for each test in Mississippi. Once a score is set, it’s harder to lower
the score than it is to raise the score.

Ms. Ginn asked Mr. Hebler to explain specifically about the Physical Education test. The
Subcommittee was presented data from a three year period showing the results of the present
scores from Mississippi Physical education graduates. The previous cut sco
re was very high
and, during a three year period, showed Mississippi had a very low percentage of passing
scores. All tests involved are new tests, except the PE test.

The recommended cut scores are:

Middle grade Math


Middle grade Science


Middle grade Social Studies


Middle grade Language Arts


Education of Exceptional Students


Physical Education


With no further questions, Dr. Ruby made a motion that the recommended cut scores be
approved. Ms. Gipson seconde
d the motion.

Dr. Tally asked about breakdown of ethnicity in the studies involved. Mr. Hebler explained
more about where data came from and how it compared with logistics in Mississippi. We
don’t know yet the ethnic breakdown of scores in Mississippi bec
ause these are all new tests.
The data used is from other states and may not represent the same ratios that we have in
Mississippi. The distribution will be different because our black/white ratio will be different.
He added that this distribution was con
sidered by the subcommittee when setting the cut
scores for the tests. Changing the cut score right now will not make a higher percentage of
test takers where blacks will score higher than whites. We have a different ethnic mix. We
cannot make it equal.
He added that the subcommittee recommended that the data be
reviewed again in three years for each test and make adjustments if data warrants it. This is
our best estimate of what our graduates will score. If you set them at the recommended
scores, you c
an raise them in three years.

Dr. Hutto and Dr. Ruby further explained how the subcommittee decided on the
recommended scores. Ms Moore felt that the recommended scores were too low. She
questioned that what we are requiring of teachers is not comparable w
ith what we are
requiring of students in testing. Mr. Hebler said you must look at the pass rates. The
subcommittee calculations wanted the recommended scores to show 75% pass, 25% fail.
Again Ms. Moore expressed concern that we are asking more from the
students than we ask
from the teachers. Dr. Hutto called for a vote on the motion that had already been made and
seconded. All Commission members voted “yes” to the recommended cut scores for all tests,
with Ms. Moore voting “no’.

Agenda Item 7

Ginn, Licensure Update

Ms. Ginn introduced Dr. Donald Wheelock, who joined the Office of Educator Licensure in
March of 2004.
Dr. Wheelock is the Director of Educator Preparation Programs, Standards,
and Practices. He is currently w
orking closely with MIS

on data for process review.

The Master of Educational Leadership program at Mississippi College has changed the
timelines. There are no changes to the program except the number of semesters required to
get the degree.

There will be a review of the Educ
ational Leadership program which will include teams of
MDE staff, Educator Licensure, and Curriculum which will center on increased emphasis on
content of programs. There will be changes made that will be brought to the Commission for


staff members Mike Hobby, Cindy Chester, and Cindy Coon worked with
Educational Testing Service in recent weeks to set new Praxis scores.

The Peak Season for the Office of Educator Licensure is between the months of April and
September. Licensure Support

Staff is being trained for phone duty which will help with the
large Call Center load. We have also added new menu options to the phone service. We have
two contract staff during May and June to assist with the Call Center. During the month of
April, ou
r office has serviced 373 walk
ins, mailed 447 applications, and issued 9963
licenses from January through April of 2004.

Agenda Item 8

Dr. James Hutto, Report on Hearings

On May 6, 2004, the Commission’s Hearing Subcommittee comprised of Roy Ruby, B
Long, Renee Moore, Kenneth Murphree and Dan Brown conducted two (2) disciplinary

The Subcommittee found that Kelly Carter Hemba violated Section 37
2 (11)(g) of the
Mississippi Code of 1972 Annotated, as amended in that she entered a pl
ea of guilty in the
Circuit Court of Lamar County, Mississippi to felony embezzlement on or about October 28,
1991. The Subcommittee found that Ms. Hemba served all requirements of law regarding
her crime, reported her malfeasance to her employer and hand
led money for the PTO subject
to audit without any problems. It was the decision of the Subcommittee that Kelly Hemba be
issued an educator license.

The Subcommittee found that Sandra Clayton violated Section 37
2 (11)(g) of the
Mississippi Code of 197
2 Annotated, as amended in that she was found guilty of Aiding
Inmates to Escape, a felony, on or about May 8, 1985 in the Circuit Court of Williamson
County, Tennessee. The Subcommittee found that Ms. Clayton committed the crime
involving her child over 2
0 years ago and that she currently holds a Tennessee educator
license. It was the decision of the Subcommittee that Sandra Clayton be issued an educator

On March 19, 2004, the Mississippi Department of Human Services, Division of Child
Support E
nforcement requested that the Mississippi Department of Education suspend the
educator license held by Earl D. Elliott, License No. 122547, in accordance with Sections 93
151 through 93
157 of the Mississippi Code of 1972 Annotated, as amended.
uant to Section 37
2 (19) of the Mississippi Code of 1972, Annotated, as amended, on
May 25, 2004, the Mississippi Department of Education notified Earl D. Elliott that his
educator license is suspended for non
compliance with a child support order.

enda Item 9


Other business

Dr. Hutto asked if there was any other business to be brought to the attention of the
Commission. Dr. Tally introduced a new faculty member from Rust College who was in

Ms. Ginn announced the resignation of Dr.
Roy Ruby due to retirement. Dr. Hutto presented
a certificate of appreciation to Dr. Ruby from the Commission for his years of service.

Dr. Hutto called for a motion to adjourn. The motion was made by Mr. Clay, seconded by Dr.
Ruby. The meeting was adj
ourned at 11:55 a.m.



Chairman of the Commission




Executive Secretary of the Commission