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NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

1





CONFIRMED MINUTES

OCTOBER

18
-
2
0
,

2011

SHERATON STATION SQUARE

PITTSBURGH, PA
, USA


These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a
subsequent
meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the
Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.


Tues
day,
October

18
, 2011 to Thursday,
October 20
, 2011



1.0

OPENING COMMENTS


1.1

Call
to Order / Quorum Check


The
Nondestructive Testing Task Group (NDT)

was called to order at
8:04

a.m.
,
18
Oct
2011.


It was verified that only
SUBSCRIBER

MEMBERS were in attendance during th
e closed
portion of
the
meeting.


PRI
Anti
-
trust

Policy

and Conflict of Interest

was displayed

and read to the Task
G
roup.


A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:


Subscriber

Members
/Participants

Present
(
* Indicates
Voting Member
)



NAME

COMPANY NAME







*

Stephen

Bauer

Northrop Grumman Corporation


*

Philippe

Beck

Eurocopter



*

Mitch

Birzer

General Dynamics Corp.


*

Alain

Bouchet

SAFRAN Group



Chris

Brust

DCMA


*

Juergen

Burchards

MTU Aero Engines


*

Richard

Costantino

Goodrich Corporation


*

Michael

Daehling

Cessna Aircraft Company


*

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Doane

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NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

2

System Div

*

Robert

Rainone

Goodrich Corporation


*

Carl

Roche

Textron Systems


*

David

Royce

Pratt & Whitney

Secretary

*

Kurt

Ruoff

General Dynamics


*

Bobby

Scott

Bombardier Inc.

Vice
Chairman

*

Michael

Shiplett

Triumph Group, Inc.


*

Chris

Stevenson

Rolls
-
Royce PLC



Terho

Sulkupuro

Volvo Aero Corporation


*

Scott

Sullivan

Honeywell Aerospace



Walter

Tonizzo

Heroux
-
Devtek


*

Peter

Torelli

The Boeing Company


*

Louis

Truckley

The Boeing Company


*

David

Vaughn

Spirit AeroSystems


*

Tony

Warren

Airbus SAS UK



Trish

Wesemann

The
Boeing

Company





Other
Members
/Participants

Present (* Indicates
Voting Member
)



NAME

COMPANY NAME







John

Abrahams

RTI International Metals, Inc.



Christopher

Andersen

PCC Structurals



Leandro

Aparicio

Advanced Coating Technique


*

Michael

Ashton

Hexcel Kent


*

Andy

Bakewell

E. M. Inspection Co. Ltd.



Shawn

Ballou

Wyman Gordon


*

Martyn

Bills

Exova UK Ltd



David

Bullard

Hi
-
Tech Metal Finishing



Andrew

Cantrell

Jorgensen Forge



Alan

Chlpka

Solar Atmospheres of
Western PA



Steve

Crest

Stabile Plating Co Inc.



John

Cristman

X
-
R
-
I Testing



Nathalie

Crozat
-
Vigier

SKF Aerospace France



Kevin

Curry

Haley Industries Ltd
.


*

Robert

Custer

AAA Plating & Inspection, Inc.



Sharon

Davis

Northeast Testing &
Mfg, LLC



Fabienne

DuFour

Sherwin Babb Co
.



John

Edwards

Edwards Services



Tim

Emmenegger

Mistras Group


*

Paul

Evans

James Fisher IMS Ltd
.



Donald


Fie


ESCO Turbine Technologies
Syracuse



Ben

Flores

A
pplied Aerospace Structures



Sarah


Fuqua


Kearfott Guidance & Navigation Corp
.



Alexander

Gamble

Vermont Composites


*

Richard

Gasset

Lisi Aerospace



Richard

Goodwin

Laboratory Testing Inc.


*

David

Gray

Mitchell Labs



Michael J.

Guthmiller

A
pplied Aerospace Structures



Rick

Heise

XRI Testing



Bob

Henchar

X
-
Ray Industries



Barry

Hickey

Parker Aerospace



Phil

Hilliard

Dynamic Paint Solutions



Ballard

Hindman

Advanced Coating Technique



Randy

Hite

PCC Airfoils
-
Portland


NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

3


Fook
-
Wing

Raymond

Ho


Taikoo

(Xiamen) Aircraft Eng. Co. Ltd




Don

Horzewski

Ladish Co, Inc.



Gerard

Hub

G. Cotter Enterprises, Inc



Blanca

Huerta

Bowman Plating Co, Inc



Jeff

Jones

Alloy Processing, Inc.



Taneka

King

Essex Cryogenics



Richard

Kline

X
-
R
-
Testing / Troy



Michael

Kocka

Arrow Gear



Josef

Maier

Bohler Edelstahl GmbH & Co. KG


*

D.E. "Skip"

McDougall

Hitco Carbon Composites



Bill


McKessy


Howmet Corp/Hampton Casting
(HHC)



Jerome

Mehal

Corpus Christi Army Depot



Norm

Miller

Senior Aerospace,
Ketema Division


*

Dave

Mitchell

Mitchell NDT Associates, LLC



Angelo

Monzo

Barnes Aerospace



Nour

Nasr

RTI Claro Inc



Thomas

Newton

Aircraft Xray Laboratories, Inc
.



Juan M.

Perez

Aircraft Xray Laboratories, Inc.


*

Mark

Pompe

West Penn
Testing Group


*

Jonathan

Pugh

Exova UK Ltd



Venicia

Queen

Vandergriff Technologies



Steve

Raddich

Jorgensen Forge



Jim

Reinhardt

Applus RTD Canada LP



Catherine

Renfer

ESCO Turbine Technologies



Doug

Riley

Haley Industries Ltd


*

Cindy

Roth

Team Industrial Services



Guy

Saenz

Hi
-
Tech Metal Finishing



Vicki

Salzarulo

Kaman Aerospace Corp



Victor

Schonberger

Israel Aerospace Industries



Tammi

Schubert

LMI Aerospace Inc



John

Smith

Sandvik Special Metals



Doug

Starzec

A.I.D.
Company, Div of RBC Bearings



Michael D.

Steele

Northstar Aerospace



Jackie

Sternot

PAKO, Inc.



Craig

Swindell

Dynamic Paint Solutions



Kirk

Thams

X
-
Ray Industries



Marc

Trepanier

Composites Atlantic Ltd



Dale

Urban

Mistras Group


*

Gary

White

Orbit Industries Inc.



Sean

Wood

Triumph



Tom

Zimmerman

SPS Technologies




PRI Staff Present




Mark

Aubele


Jim

Bennett


Phil

Ford


Mike

G
utridge


Andy

Statham



2.0

TASK GROUP REGULAR B
USINESS ITEMS



CLOSED



Auditor Observations

performed since June 2011
:



#141194


Observed by Lou Truckley

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

4


#138008


Observed by Pete Torelli


#135759


Observed by Lou Truckley


#140427


Observed by Tony Warren


#137512


Observed by David Wall (Boeing)


#139407


Observed by Greg Hall


#1389
47


Observed by Pete Torelli



The comments made by the observers
were discussed
.




A question was asked regarding the process for communicating with the
A
uditor prior to the audit
and if the
S
ubscriber wishes to ask a question during an audit. PRI Staff

clarified the expectations
of NOP
-
007.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI to verify the verbiage in the email that describes wha
t information the A
uditor is to
supply to and coordinate with the Observer. PRI Staff to determine
i
f

an Auditor
Advisory is required to
assu
re A
uditors are aware.

(
DUE DATE: 30
-
Nov
-
11
)



A question was asked relating to the intent of audit observations
. TG Chair clarified it is to verify the
NDT Program and Auditor.



Supplemental Scope Extensions
-

There were no
Supplemental
Scope Extension

audits
conducted
since June 2011.



Accreditation extensions
-

Six accreditation extension requests were granted since June 2011.
These extensions were due to natural disasters or political unrest in the region. O
ne Audit
Extension request
was
received
and disapproved.



Failure Issues

-

Four audits have failed since
February

2011. None of these decisions were
overturned.



Lapsed Accreditations


In 2010, f
ive
accreditations

have
lapsed

out of 1031

(0.5%)
.

In 2011, two
accreditations lapsed out of 406

(0.5%). Goal is less than 10%.



Subscriber NDT Sub Groups


Reviewed.




AC7114


Scott Sullivan (Chair)

Alain Bouchet

Lou Truckley

David Vaughn

Phil Keown




AC7114/1


Pete Torelli (Chair)

Chris Dootson

Mike Mitchell

Andrea Steen

Pat Thompson

Tony
Warren



Luigi Merletti (Agusta Westland)
&
Sean Wood (Triumph Actuation Systems


Clemmons)
to be
added to group
.





AC7114/2


Bob Hogan (Chair)

Bob Reynolds

Bobby Scott

Mike Clark

Dave Vaughn




AC7114/3

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

5


Mike Mitchell (Chair)

Greg Hall

Doug Ladd

Uri Sol

Ron Levi

David Vaughn



Lou Truckley to be added to group
. Ron Levi and Uri Sol to be removed from group
.



AC7114/4


Dave Royce (Chair)

Carl Roche

Mike Shiplett

Chris Stevenson

Pat Thompson




Filmless RT Sub Group


A
dd Mike Mitchell and Lou Grijalva to
Group
.



Merit Sub Group


Agreed to sunset group as
NOP
-
008 has been revised and will be released 15
January 2012
.



UT Phased Array
Sub Group


Agreed to sunset group
per request by Dave Vaughn
as

AC7114/3
checklist
was
revised and
implemented with over 20 audits including phased array being conducted
with no issues
.



Major/Minor

Sub Group


Agreed to sunset group due to the Nadcap
NCR template
being
changed. N
o further action was deemed necessary.



Non NDT
Subscriber Representatives requested as sub group members. Per the requirements of
NTGOP
-
001 App 1 a vote is required.



Motion made

by Dave Vaughn and seconded by Mike Mitchell to approve Keith Griffiths of Rolls
Royce plc as a member of the Maintenance R
epair and Overhaul (MRO) ad
-
hoc group and Bob
Francoeur, and Matt Gromley of Pratt & Whitney for the Filmless RT ad
-
hoc group.

Motion Passed




ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to modify the master lists for all sub
-
groups
identified above
and publish
accordingly
.
(

DUE DATE: 15
-
Nov
-
11
)



Specific metrics were reviewed associated with
a
udit
d
ata.
Phil Ford asked if the Task Group
wanted to keep the Audit Observations and Red Line Spreadsheets. TG Chair indicated that the
TG would not want to lose the data,
PRI will
continue to
input data
.




Scott Sullivan asked a question associated with the compliance data as the same high level of
NCR’s / Checklist paragraph call outs are identified. TG Chair will be giving a presentation to the
Supplier Support Committee

to see

if this aspect can be addressed.


ACTION ITEM:

TG Chair to present to the SSC and provide feedback on any necessary actions for PRI
Staff / Task Group.
(
DUE DATE: 30
-
Nov
-
11
)



Chris Doo
tson
asked
if the trending for compliance issues are

reducing over the years. PRI Staff
clarified that this is not monitored but could be considered as part of the overall metrics during
their

meetings.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to investigate if it is possible to trend the compliance jobs over the
y
ears to

determine if there is a reduction or increase.
(
DUE DATE: 12
-
Jan
-
12
)



Scott Sullivan asked about the Delegation Status of Andy Statham. The Subscribers were
presented with the metrics (222 NCR’s / 74 Audits were reviewed).


NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

6


Motion made

by Mike Mitchell and seconded by Alain Bouchet to grant delegation for audit review
to Staff Engineer Andy Statham.

Task Group waived the requirements as imposed by NOP
-
003
and NTGOP
-
001, Appendix I.
Motion Passed



ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to complete necessary internal paperwork to address
granting of audit review
delegation for Andy Statham.
(
DUE DATE:
30
-
Nov
-
1
1
)




3.0

T
G RESOLUTIONS AND CL
OSED DISCUSSION POIN
TS



CLOSED



NUCAP deviations
-

Deviation #
0000
3
7 was su
bmitted

to the TG Group review. After further
discussion
,
the

deviation
was
withdrawn by the requester.



Audit #138264


Ballot comments identified a S
ubscriber recommending a Verification Corrective
Action (VCA) to be performed, based on the number of complianc
e issues identified.



Motion made

by Bob Hogan and seconded by Dave Royce to close the audit

without a VCA being
required

on the basis that Boeing plan
s

to visit this company.
M
otion

Passed



Audit #142644 was brought to the attention of the Subscribers.
Company
,

during the first round of
NCR responses
,

decided to discontinue with the Nadcap process.
T
his audit will be FAILED per
NOP
-
011 mode A


Supplier Stops the Audit

Process
.


4.0

ETHICS AND APPEALS


CLOSED



None presented
.


5.0

NEW BUSINESS



CLOSED



Various items of a confidential nature were discussed.



ASTM has recently revised E1417, E1444 &
E1742
. AC7114/1, /2 &
/
4 will need to be reviewed to

determine if any changes are required to the checklist as a result.



ACTION ITEM:

AC7114/1, /2 &

/4 sub groups to review the applicable specifications against the checklist
and report if any changes are necessary.
(
DUE DATE: 12
-
Jan
-
12
)



Auditor Advisory 10
-
01 associated with Spray Guns was discussed. It was agreed that the advisory

should be remov
ed with recommendations for potential checklist change
s

to address.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to withdraw
S
upplier advisory 10
-
01.
(
DUE DATE: 30
-
Nov
-
11
)


ACTION ITEM:

PT Sub Group to recommend (if any) changes to the PT checklist following the withdrawal

of advisory 10
-
01.
Also recommend the possibility of addin
g a training module for future A
uditor
Conference

sessions on the use of
w
ater
s
pray guns.
(
DUE DATE: 12
-
Jan
-
12
)



6.0

SUPPLEMENTS



CLOSED



No
ne

presented.


7.0

CHAIR REPORT OUT ON
THE ROUND TABLE


OPEN



Checklist Vision
-

NOP
-
002 defines what is to be in a checklist, each TG shall review their

checklist to ensure no “new requirements” are contained in the checklist.

NMC requested that the

TG
’s

be
flexible

on
h
ow requirements

are met.

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

7



AS9100
R
ev C will be implemented as Auditor’
s are certified. This may be a problem as
many

Suppliers rely on the AS9100 system
, and there may not be enough Auditors
.



Concerns have arisen due to audits in “
dangerous
” areas of the world, many Auditors do not
want

to travel to those areas, and extensions are issued. How long will the extensions last
?

The

Nadcap Management Council (
NMC
)

to
investigate.



Language

issues were discussed that
affect

the audits,
a NMC group will be formed to investigate


with th
e NDT TG Chair
participating
.


Auditors have had problems when they cannot bring their computers
or memory sticks into a
S
upplier once they arrive on site because they contain cameras or due to security issues.


8.0

PRI REPORT / RAIL /
NMC METRICS

-

OPEN



Motion made

by Scott Sullivan and seconded by Dave Vaughn to approve the minutes of the 2011
June meeting as written.

Motion Passed



Staff Report –
October 2011.pptx


9.0

SUPPLIER REPORT & DI
SCUSSION

-

OPEN


NDT SSC TG Report
OCT2011.ppt

10.0

ADHOC PANEL REPORTS

-

OPEN



Digital Radiography

(DR)



Originally a single checklist was going to be used for DR. There will
now be a se
parate checklist for each technique
,
Computed Radiography (
CR
)

and
Digital
Detector

Array (
DDA
)
. It is planned to finalize the DDA
check
lists

early 2012, when
completed

test

audits
will be conducted. Suppliers will be needed for the
se
test

audits
. The CR checklist w
i
ll be later in
th
e

year.



UT Phased Array


Items have been included in AC7114/3
.

Team has been
sunset
ted
.



NAS 410 Rev 3


Decided that the Group would be sunset
ted

until Revision 4 is released
.



Eddy Current checklist

(AC7114/5)



Two test

audits

have been completed, with the objective of

finding problems with the checklist. Following this meeting the chec
klist will be balloted. Audit
s


may commence 2
nd

quarter 2012.



UT High
Energy
/discs/shafts


Investigation

under way.



MRO team


R
eady for test audits
,

need to find candidates.
Mark Aubele identified that t
he NMC

has requested that no
test

audits be

conducted at this time

and the MRO group is placed on hold.

It is believed that aspects in the current NDT checklists address MRO expectations as there are

MRO companies accredited for Nadcap NDT
.




Readdressed the sunset
ting

of the Supplier Merit & M
ajor / Minor Sub Groups

Auditor



Development


Still in the early sta
g
es, meetings and discussions under way. This
may be


combined with
the

Auditor
Conference

sub
-
group
.

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

8


11.0

NADCAP AND NDT PROCE
DURE REVIEW

-

OPEN



The following documents have been revised and the revisions discussed: NIP 4
-
01, NIP 6
-
01, NIP

7
-
01, NIP 7
-
02, NIP 7
-
04, NIP 7
-
08, NOP
-
004, NOP
-
006, NOP
-
008, NOP
-
009, NOP
-
011, NTGOP
-

001 Appendix 1. All documents are available on eAuditN
et

“Resources
-
Doc
uments
-
Procedures”
.



A sub team is established to review NTGOP
-
001 Appendix 1, Scott Sullivan, Gary White,
Venicia


Queen,
and Mike

Ash
ton, have volunteered.


ACTION ITEM:
PRI to send procedure to review team and follow
-
up with comments or proposed
changes.


(
Due Date: 15

N
ov
-
1
1
)


12.0

CLARIFICATION DATABA
SE

-

OPEN



Andy Bakewell presented the clarification database and open items were reviewed.



Motion made

by Scott Sullivan and seconded by Chris Stevenson to approve the definition of
annual to be 12 months +/
-

3 months.

Discussion ensued, many questions arose, this definition
may affect all Task Groups.

Motion Tabled



Phil Keown and Bobby Scott

agreed to b
e Subscriber Task Group representative
s

for the
clarification database.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to ensure Phil Keown and Bobby Scott are added to the circulation lists
regarding the clarification database.
(
DUE DATE 15
-
Nov
-
11
)
.


ACTION ITEM:

Phil Keown will raise the definition of frequency to the Standardization Committee for
consistency amongst Task Groups.
(
DUE DATE 19
-
Oct
-
11
)
.



A suggestion was made to incorporate the clarifications database with the discussion of the RAIL

closure items

to ensure all aspects were captured

from the meeting.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to include reference to clarification database review to the agenda with the RAIL
closure items.
(
DUE DATE 15
-
Nov
-
11
)
.



13.0

CHAIR REPORT OUT ON
THE NMC

-

OPEN



Bobby Scott report
ed
;
s
tandardization

was discussed, as well as the future of the program.



Embraer

has signed on

to participate in

the
Nadcap
program
.

They are pending.


14.0

SSC REPORT OUT ON TH
E NMC

-

OPEN



Gary White reported:



Major/minor NCR
’s

has been a topic and Suppliers have had a concern, the SSC Leadership team

has been investigating. They determined that no
significant
difference has occurred

on major

NCR’s

for the past six months. They will continue their investigation and report ou
t next

meeting.



First time S
upplier orientation meeting was implemented.



Established a Supplier Support Center at the Nadcap meeting.



The
S
upplier survey has been doing well. Goal was 1500 respondents, they have had 1522. The

survey will continue for a few more months.


NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

9


Mentoring
:

7 individuals have
volunteered
. There are 3 or 4 requests a month for mentors.



SSC is evaluating cycle times and what support that they can provide to reduce.



There was a flow down panel discuss
ion, from a
Subscriber
, an Auditor, and a Supplier.


15.0

TECHNICAL ISSUES AND

OPEN DISCUSSION ITEM
S

-

OPEN



No issues from Staff.



With recent revisions to the ASTM’s, what are exceptions for compliance to the new revisions?

Most
Subscribers
would expect an immediate compliance, unless they have their

documents, which they would revise accordingly and publish.




Question on calibration of light meters, will readings in 10ths be required? The penetrant and

quality sub groups will discuss
.


ACTION ITEM:

AC7114 & /1 sub groups to review the calibration of light meters in regard to whether the
readings in 10ths is required and report out.
(
DUE DATE 24
-
Feb
-
12
)



When will Nadcap review the ASTM’s for incorporation into the checklists? This is

under review by

the sub groups affected and
the
checklist will be revised accordingly
.



Will the Suppliers be given access to the Digital RT checklist

for input while it’s being developed
?
There is a draft
checklist be
ing

developed by
Subscribers
and
will be
made available to Suppliers
for review as part of the sub
-
team as the review process continues.




AC7114/
1

paragraph 5.5.1.5 was discussed, emulsifier concentration.

Addressed in the proposed

checklist changes sheet
.



Major findings in the compl
iance section were discussed, there seems to be no change in this area


with many NCR’s in compliance
. Why? The SSC has instituted the mentoring program to help

with this; we need to focus efforts in this area. Why do some Suppliers have problems in th
is arena

and other
s

don’t?
Supplier support was encouraged for the
mentoring program.

Suppliers are

asked to contact the SSC or PRI Staff if they
could benefit

from the
mentoring
program
.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to determine if there is way

to include the advertisement of the mentoring
program into the
audit
close out meeting.


(
DUE DATE:

31
-
Jan
-
12
)


What is the expectation of the 3 compl
iance jobs if the facility has one

Inspector? If there are
three

compliance jobs
from different
Subscrib
ers
can they be processed at the same time?

Answer
-

If
there is one Inspector at a facility
they

ca
n process the three compliance j
obs
provided the same
technique is used.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to write an NDT
Newsletter a
rticle to address and clarify

the expectations of the
compliance jobs
. I
f only one inspector is employed
then the inspector processes all jobs for available
customers. If
three components

from different Subscribers

then they must be processed separately

unless
the same technique app
lies
.
(
DUE DATE:

22
-
Dec
-
11
)



Is there a requirement for white light intensity for indication verification during penetrant inspection?

If there are they would be in the checklist or Supplement.

No resolution
as requirements vary.



Light meters for RT,
do

they need to be calibrated for both foot candles and candelas? This item

will be added to the Clarification Database.


ACTION ITEM:

Clarification database to include
clarification for RT light meters.

AC7114/4, par. 5.6.5
already addresses this issue.
They
need to be calibrated for both foot candles and candelas
.

(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Nov
-
11
)

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

10



16.0

DIGITAL RADIOGRAPHY
PRESENTATION AND DIS
CUSSION

-

OPEN



Hank Sikorski of Pratt & Whitney gave a presentation on di
gital radiography at Pratt & Whitney

and

the activities of the MAI Group
.


17.0

NEW BUSINESS

-

OPEN



The NMC performed an
oversight

audit during the June 2011 meeting
. F
inding were presented

and discussed.



Smart checklist: A report was given on the NMC Standardization Committee and the “smart

checklist”
(
also known as “
Checklist on Demand

)
.




Motion made

by Gary White and seconded by Dave Vaughn to approve Jonathan Pugh of Exova
as a Supplier Voting Mem
ber and Martyn Bills of Exova as an Alternate Supplier Voting Member.


Motion Passed



Fast drying solvents for PT were discussed, is there an approval for them, what’s allowed? ASTM

decided that laboratory grades are acceptable.



Does the photo of the TAM panel need to
be
a photo or can the image be displayed on a computer

monitor.
It was determined that it

must be
a
photograph.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to add to clarification database that the photograph of the TAM Panel shall be a
photograph. Images displayed on a computer monitor are not acceptable.
(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Nov
-
11
)




If

the expiration date on penetrant

has passed should the material be

discarded after that date?
Discussion ensued. The decision was that the material shall not be discarded

provided
the material
is rendering acceptable test results, i.e. TAM panel, it is OK to use.



ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to add to clarification databas
e that penetrant material
may continue to be used
after the date of expiration
provided the material is rendering acceptable test results,
(

i.e. TAM panel
).
(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Nov
-
11
)


Question
was brought up regarding the use of
the
same qualification
examination
test samples

in
subsequent exams
.

AIA had clarified this and determined that this practice
is
acceptable

only when
other
test samples are not available and there is no other alternative.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to add
to AC7114, para 5.3.13
CAG a new bullet to add this clarification from the
AIA.
(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Nov
-
11
)


18.0

METHOD CHAIR REPORT
OUT
-

OPEN



The Method Chairs reported on the Sub Groups:



AC7114
-

N
o new issues
.




AC7114/1


A

couple of items being worked, ASTM
E

1417M
-
11will
be

reviewed for items to be

I
ncluding in the checklist

(refer to earlier action item)
.





AC7114/2

-

A

new checklist question may be added to address the adequacy of the technique

used
. In addition ASTM E 1444M
-
11 has been issued and will be reviewed by the sub
-
group for

other potential changes.





AC7114/3

-

T
he phased array group has
been
sunset
ted
.



NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

11

AC7114/4
-

No new issues, ASTM

E 1742
M
-
11

has been reviewed


no impact to
the
c
hecklist
anticipated
.







AC7114/
5

-

Eddy Current checklist has ha
d

two
t
est

audits and the checklist will be balloted soon.


19.0

CHECKLIST DISCUSSION

-

OPEN



Proposed revision to the checklists

were presented
,

once changes are made the checklists will be
balloted
: AC7114
,

AC7114/
1, AC7114/2, AC7114/3 and AC7114/4.

See b
-
frm
-
04 for proposed
changes.


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to make changes accordingly to the checklist following discussion of the
proposed chan
ges.
(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Dec
-
11
)


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to determine a
more effective
method to review checklist change proposals.

Proposal to include both Subscriber and Supplier participation.

(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Dec
-
11
)


ACTION ITEM:

PRI Staff to create verbiage for AC7114 paragraph 2.1 to address past finding.

This to
address clarification of quality system identification and where to record in the checklist.

Now added to b
-
frm
-
04 for ballot.
(
DUE DATE:

30
-
Dec
-
11
)


20.0

SUPPLIER SYMPO
SIUM


NCR RESPONSES

-

OPEN



Following con
cerns identified previously by S
uppliers, regarding the expectations of

addressing NCR’s with NDT, a symposium was given to clarify the expectations of PRI Staff and

Subscribers.



21.0

DEVELOP AGENDA FOR F
EBRUARY
2012

-

OPEN



Off Agenda Item:
Shariq Parvez of PRI gave a p
resentation
regarding the
eAuditNet ballot

process
.


The
new agenda format developed by
NMC
will be utilized for the meeting in February (San
Diego). The NMC meeting will be held
Thursday mornin
g,
instead of Wednesday morning allowing
a more accurate TG Report out to be presented as the TG will be able to meet for the full three
days.


22.0

RAIL REVIEW

-

OPEN



Completed and new items
added
to the rail.




NDT Task Group
RAIL Post meeting.xls


23.0

MEETING
FACILITATION FEEDBAC
K

-

OPEN



Completed
. Based upon discussion at Planning and Operations meeting this
is
no longer required,

however
commodities are encouraged to obtain some form of feedback.


24.0

BREAK OUT SESSIONS

-

OPEN



Completed


ADJOURNMENT


2
0
-
OCT
-
11



Meeting was adjourned at 5
:00

p
.m.


Minutes Prepared by
: David N. Royce

NONDESTRUCTIVE TESTING


OCTOBER 2011

CONFIRMED MINUTES

12

Pratt & Whitney

david.royce@pw.utc.com





***** For PRI Staff use only: ******


Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved
during this meeting?
(select one)


YES*


NO




*If yes, the following information
is required:


Documents requiring
revision:

Who is responsible:

Due date: