1917 doors on centre door sedan

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1917 doors on centre door sedan


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Posted by
Jack H. Watt / Brandon MB

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S
edan doors not fitting

I just purchased a 1917 Centre Door and the wood appears to be in exceptional
good condition.

The problem is the doors don’t close and latch properly.

To look at them you would think they sagged down on the latch side.

It has been su
ggested to me that the problem is likely the body blocks.

I have never seen anyone advertise blocks for sedans in any cats.

Can anyone explain to me how I ensure the body in straight so I can prove where
or what the problem is?

Maybe someone can advise as
to where I could find this information if they don’t
know how to explain it. (a book or internet?)

Model T Jack

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jack daron

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posted by Jack H. Watt / Brandon
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May 07, 2006 at 5:45PM :

Firs
t,can you grab the door by the outer edge and lift up,see if it moves any. If it
does the problem is in the door. If not then see if the hinge screws are loose?
There are only three mounting points/side on any body,so if you need to shim it
up /down to get

door to work better,you have to determine if the center need
lifting /lowering. Or it may be that the rear needs lifting/lowering. You will have to
check these items and get back to me for me to be able to help you more.

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Jack H. Watt / Brandon MB

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Thanks Mr. Daron,

The doors are very solid and will not move in any direction if you heave on them.

The hinges are also very tight and no evidence
that they have moved in any way.

Would the next step be to loosen all the mounting bolts and start expermenting
with shims and see what happens????

One thing I did notice that on one side the the floor rail running front to back
slopped towards the door sl
ightly.The centre floor boards run across between
these outside rails and have 1/4" gaps between from shrinkage I think, however I
didn't think that would effect the doors but the front to back floor boards may be
trying to tell me something.

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posted by Jack H. Watt /
Brandon MB from brndmb02dc1
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Sunday, May 07, 2006 at 8:41PM :

First,it's Jack. There is no Mr.Daron. He retired and I have absolutly no wish to
reincarnate him. I need to know which way y
our doors open. That will tell me
which end of car to start on first.


Ok Jack,

The doors are hinged towards the front of the car like normal car doors or hinged
on the right hand pillar facing the door.( not suicide doors)

A couple of thing come to mind,
the frame may be sagging or the body sills have
sagged due to age/dry rot or whatever. If the door latch is low the you can try
unloosening the center body bolts and shimm up the body using 1/2 washers.
You will have to judge how many by the distance your
door is down from the
latch plate. After trying one or two you should be able to see a difference and
then know whether to add/subtract more.If you take the body bolt out while you
do this it will be easier. the body should flex enough to pry it up with a
crowbar
and slide in some washers between the bracket and frame mount. You don't
have to tighten it down till you get it where you want it. Good luck,and let us know
how you did.


Thanks Jack,

I will give it a go this coming weekend and see what happens.

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sedan

posted by Jack H. Watt /
Brandon MB from brndmb02dc1
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Monday, May 08, 2006 at 5:40PM :

Should these body mounts have any washers or shims? I also have a centerdoor
with ill fitting doors, orig wood is sol
id and hinges are tight all 6 Body bolts are
without shims?

Thanks

Originally they were not shimmed,but they were younger then and time tends to
cause things to sag.


Just put two washers on center mount of right side of my center door. This made
a big i
mprovement in the door fit on both sides!

Thanks for the tip


Don't you just love it when a plan comes together!


A big thanks to Jack for the help.

I also found it is the centre mount that seems to be most of the problem.

I have the right side just about
where it should be now and just got some fine
tunning to do.

Simple but a little tricky the first time around.

Thanks again Jack you were a big help getting me going in the right direction.

Jack.